Hi, I have an EPIC and am currently using it in an in-circuit-programming configuration for a 16F84. I just placed a resistor (from 2K to 10K) between any pin that is being used in my circuit and my circuit, and have a jack ( IDC header) that allows me to plug and unplug the programmer. When the programmer is hooked up, its pins are connected directly to the appropriate PIC pins, and isolated from the rest of the circuit by the resistors. As for power, I simply have a jumper that allows me to switch the power source from internal power to the power from the programmer. I also included a jumper which allows me to short the oscillator pins together to prevent osc. start up. However, I have found that I do not need to switch either of these two jumpers in this case,as long as the circuit is powered down. I also do have to admit that RB6 and RB7 are not used in my app, so no resistor isolation was needed on them,but I don't think there would be a problem even if they were being used. Sean At 04:03 PM 6/18/99 +1000, you wrote: >Other designs rely on passive pull-up resistors to drive the data signals >and this >again is not helpful to your cause. >(EPIC, P16PRO and other DIY-HK programmers, DT001, PROPIC I&II, and other >TAIT style >derivatives) > | | Sean Breheny | Amateur Radio Callsign: KA3YXM | Electrical Engineering Student \--------------=---------------- Save lives, please look at http://www.all.org Personal page: http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/shb7 mailto:shb7@cornell.edu ICQ #: 3329174 ________________________________________________________ NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html