I built a PicAll board, and everything seems to buzz-out correctly. I compared against a picture on one of the websites...they had their PIC socket mounted backwards.. so I did the same (foolish me). I've since put a 16f877 into the socket and powered it on... is the chip destroyed? I cannot get the PicAll software to see any device out there (I'm on a 450mhz machine if the makes a difference) -- Aaron