Byron A Jeff wrote: > > - > - > > - > Byron A Jeff wrote: > - > > > - > > I'm perusing the datasheet now and I'm definitely in love. How much are these > - > > parts going for. I think I need to buy a tube. > - > > > - > > Also I still can't find any reference to the part on Digikey's web site despite > - > > reports here that Digikey has them. Do I need to call them? > - > > > - > > Thanks for any info. > - > > - > The pricing on the 16$877 is double that of the > - > ATMEL AVR 90LS8535, which has more goodies in it. > - > - Not helpful Tjaart, but I'll bite. > - > - I'm a Linux guy and I only use Linux for my development. Does Atmel or anyon e > - else have a Linux/Unix based assembler,simulator and programmer for the > - 90LS8535? > - > - I can use gpasm for program the 877, I already have a high voltage 16C84 > - pic programm to program it and the software to drive the programmer. gpsim > - has come along nicely. > - > - The software I'm using is already written in PIC assembly. > - > - I'm not buying production quantites so even at double the price it's well > - worth my investment. > - > - Actually this is helpful. You said that the Atmel part is $5.90. So at doubl e > - the price we're talking about $12 or so. That helps. Thanks. > > And an addendum. Where can you get Atmel parts. Conrad Electronic (www.conrad.de) Have the whole available Family, I ordered some 90S4433 today, price approx 9 Euro incl 16% local Tax . > As a hobbiest it's tough > making relationships with distributors who really only want to talk to you if > you're planning on buying a half million pieces. So Generally I stick to > hobbiest friendly places: Digikey, BGMicro, Jameco, Marshall and DallasSemi's > small order lines. I'll go out on a limb to Future or Arrow if the part > warrants it. > > Digikey has full integration of Microchip. I haven't seen Atmel there or > anywhere else I frequent. > > I saw somewhere that for almost any product that there's a 10X price spread > between the low end and high end of the product. IIRC the example was that one > could buy a $30 kitchen faucet or a $300 kitchen faucet. The issue between the > two are style, material, craftsmanship, etc. > > It's the same here. Microchip has worked damn hard to cultivate its PIC line. > They have been open and hobbiest friendly from the beginning. PIC is a brand > name and a pretty good one at that. > > My grandfather only bought Zenith TV's. They were always more expensive, but > that's what he trusted. That's how I feel about PICs. So unless there is > an extremely compelling reason to switch, I probably won't. And even at $15 > a pop, the 16C877 is a godsend. > > I've learned from experience that standardizing even at a higher average cost > saves time and aggravation in the long run. So AMD based PCs are my computing > hardware platform, Linux is my OS, and PIC's are my microcontroller. > > BAJ