I fount this: ...Version 1.01 #################################### Hello. Every company has its own circuit for each programmer,but this simple circuit works with many programs,at the same time.(V 1.01) This is a list of where you can find these programs up to date (jun 99) ProPic Programmer PICPROG Progrmmer P16PRO Programmer EPICWin Programmer WinPic Programmer I have tested the programmer with all this programs,and it works perfect. I hope this circuit helps you. ################################# the location for circuit is http://users.forthnet.gr/ath/regeman ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com