At 04:07 1/06/99 +1000, you wrote: >Hi there folk's, I'm a first time caller long time listner. >Does any body know if there are any other options besides the Picstart >Plus that can program the new 773 and 774's. > Thanks in advance > Shane Norris > WARP-3 has full support for these parts including the programmable brownout. See my New web page http://www.new-elect.com. (Very much under construction) I am in Geelong so you can ring on 03 5224 1833 if you have any hassles. Jim ________________________________________ Email: newfound@pipeline.com.au http://www.new-elect.com WARP-3 SALE now on. $48USD with world delivery. MPLAB compatible PIC programmers and firmware upgrades for many programmers. ________________________________________