What about a polyswitch or a PTC resistor (instead of a fuse or fixed resistor) Richard > -----Original Message----- > From: Dennis Plunkett [mailto:dennis@RDD.NECA.NEC.COM.AU] > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 11:19 AM > To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > Subject: Re: Reverse Polarity Protection for 3V PIC Circuit. > > > At 17:49 31/05/99 -0500, you wrote: > >I don't agree with the statement that your product has > failed. Just the > >contrary. > > No, the product has failed! A blow fuse is a failure it stops working! > Hence FAILed > > >The user has preserved his/her investment in that product. > The failure is > >in the > >user not following instructions in installing the batteries. > > There is some argument about service technicians not being > able to change a > set of torch batteries without an instructiion manual > appicable here, be > dammed if I can remember it :) > > > > If they would > >have been > >paying attention, they wouldn't have put the batteries in > backwards, and > >they > >would not have had the inconvienence of a blown fuse. But > they only lost a > >fuse > >and a little time, not the whole unit. > > > > Fuses in battery operated devices (Hand held) since when? > > > >As far as not being servicable by the user, how much education and > >coordination > >does it take to change a fuse. > > An IQ or more than moron level perhaps? > > >It would have taken less time to pay > >attention to > >the battery installation instructions in the first place, > thereby saving > >time and trouble. > > > > If they can get the batteries wrong, then why do you assume that the > operator can get a fuse correct? > What is stopping the operator from changing it to a higher > rating say a 3" > nail? > > > >The end choice is up to the designer. I only offered a > suggestion. One > >that has been > >used and proven by me. It is there for you to consider. > Whether you use it > >in your end > >product is totally up to you. > > > All suggestions are open to comment. Sometimes there may be a > better mouse > trap out there, never hurts to check. (Snap!) > > > >Whatever failsafe method is chosen, as long > >as it provides > >the degree of safety necessary, and at a cost that is > agreeable by everyone > >involved, is > >the right choice for that product. > > > > Fuses and fuse holders are expesnsive, yet alone all the > abuse that you cop > when a fuse blows (Operator error or not) > > > Dennis > > >I guess I'm done now. Thanks for letting me sound off on > what I think > >regarding this issue. > > > > > >Good Luck, > > > > > >Jim > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Paul B. Webster VK2BZC > >To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > >Date: Monday, May 31, 1999 5:25 PM > >Subject: Re: Reverse Polarity Protection for 3V PIC Circuit. > > > > > >>Jim Paul wrote: > >> > >>> You could add a diode across the batteries with a fuse so > that is the > >>> batteries are inserted the wrong way, the fuse blows > cutting off the > >>> power source. > >> > >> But then your appliance has "failed". Not good > publicity. OK, if it > >>is used under supervision and can be repaired and put back > into service. > >>Better to use a resistor (only need a few ohms) and diode. > >> > >> Reverse-inserted batteries promptly go flat. "Darn batteries!" > >>Properly inserted ones last for "ages". Appliance always works if > >>good batteries inserted correctly. This is the "teaching" approach. > >>-- > >> Cheers, > >> Paul B. > > > > >