Hmmm... not what I was hoping to hear. Does anyone know if the programming algorithms are the same for the 16C84 and the 16C71? I'm very tempted to try this approach because I've seen a lot of easy programmers out there for the 16C84. Regards, Vincent Deno > Yeh, I've had a similar problemusing pip02 to program a 16c73a using a > programer from DonTronics, I kept getting a fail message as well. After a > while i decided to just keep hitting the program button until it came up with > no errors. At this point in time it takes me about 7 tries (one after the > other)before it finally comes up and says it has programed correctly. The only > problem i have at the moment is that i can't program the oscillator fuse, it > stays set to rc regardless of what i do. > > Regards > Stuart O'Reilly > > Vincent Deno wrote: > > > Hello again, > > > > I'm in desparate need of help here. I've build the PIC programmer found > > on the following page: > > > > http://www.gbar.dtu.dk/~c888600/newpics.htm > > > > It's a "simple" serial-port programmer but I can't get it to work. I've > > tried downloading multiple copies and versions of the programs and the > > serial port drivers, using different computers, double-checked the > > circuit, etc... to no avail. > > > > I'm trying to program a 16C71. The machines here at the lab are running > > Windoze 98 (yes, I've tried DOS mode too). It "pretends" to read > > correctly. It also seems to try to actually program the EEPROM, but it > > always fails to program the fuses. > > > > This is for a school project whose deadline is getting very close. Any > > help would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Right now, I'm not even concerned about using this programmer > > specifically. If anyone has any ideas as to how to easily program a 16C74 > > w/o access to a REAL programmer, I'm all ears. > > > > -Vincent Deno >