A recent post mentioned running RS422 full-duplex with a 5-wire cable. Is the 5th line for ground? I've assumed (uh oh!) one of the benefits of RS422 and RS485 was the absence of a common ground running a couple thousand feet (ground loops, noise, etc). A friend working as a network consultant has a client who recently moved into a new and much larger facility. A PC communicates via RS232 to some uP-based I/O boxes out in the warehouse (cable run was <50ft. now is ~150ft.). The PC's serial port has blown several times since the move. The PC and the remote I/O boxes are on separate breakers, but the electrician says all is OK with AC service and grounding. Their plan is to convert to RS485. My serial comm experience has been with RS232, so I can't offer anything beyond the MAXIM 485 data sheets, etc. Has anyone dealt sucessfully with this symptom by replacing RS232 with 485? John ______________________________________________________________________________ John Leonard, instrument technician Electron Hacker College of Science & Engineering Bit Banger Saginaw Valley State University Bassist University Center, MI USA 48710 Dad _____________________________________________________________________________