If you've ever taken a smoke alarm apart you might have come across this method also. On the one I looked at one of the pins from the main IC was bent up and connected directly to the output pin of the sense module. I guess this is also a very high impedance circuit. I've also seem app. notes recommending that this type of connection can be used by soldering the critical connections in midair-just like one of my rats nests:-) (but not readily acceptable to production :( ). The moral of the story is that there can be significant leakage across a pcb - especially after a few years of use in a dirty environment. In the case below however, as there is a unity gain buffer following the cap connection, guarding would appear to be a more manufacturing acceptable solution to any leakage problem. Regards Richard > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Aase [mailto:ulcsa@ESKIMO.COM] > Sent: Friday, May 28, 1999 1:49 AM > To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > Subject: Re: Sample & Hold Circuit (fwd) > > > Actually, polypropylene and Teflon capacitors have leakage > performance superior to Mylar. The most effective circuit > I have come across used a polypropylene cap mounted up off > the PCB on Teflon standoffs. The IC pins were bent upwards > so as not to touch the PCB at all. Then the whole business > was factory-cleaned in a vapor de-greaser, and a plastic > box covered the whole circuit. Hold time approached two > hours (more or less) with this arrangement. > > > Aside from the suggestions given consider the following... > > > > Use a Polyester capacitor. Remember, capacitors, although > designed for > > energy storage do exhibit leakage. The lowest leakage variety are > > Polyester... > > > > PCB layout also contributes. Ensure that the board is clean > and isolate > > the capacitor connections as best as possible from GND and > POWER tracks. > > Also please consider the use of a guard ring around the Ch > pin of the > > LM398, TOP and BOTTOM of board. Read the application notes > carefully for > > the device. All that I have mentioned is contained within the LM398 > > datasheet... >-snip----- > > > > > > > > > > >Dear Netters, -------snip------- > > Nino > > -- > > ****************************************************** > > * Antonio (Nino) Benci * > > * Electronic Services Manager * > > * Monash University - Dept of Physics * > > * Wellington Rd, Clayton. 3168 * > > * Victoria, Australia. * > > * TEL - 61 3 9905 3649, FAX - 61 3 9905 3637 * > > * Mobile - 0414 764 763 (private and ah only) * > > * EMAIL - nino.benci@sci.monash.edu.au (work) * > > * - fleatech@excite.com (private) * > > * WWW - www.physics.monash.edu.au/ * > > ****************************************************** > > >