> > One thing that sorta bothered me starting out is that Microchip doesn't do a > > whole lot to give a newbie a push. Their programmer (PICStart) is pretty > > good but, their examples suck. You'd think that if they we're gunning for > > the mid to lower market, they'd do a better job of getting people hooked. In > > my business, we call this "OOBE" - or "Out Of Box Experience" - and theirs > > is really poor. If it weren't for this list, I'd probably walk away from > > this dream out of frustration. > When I was a PIC newbee I found Nigel Gardner's books vital. Namely "Beginners guide to the PIC" and "PIC Cookbook 1+2". There are many similar books out now but I can say the examples in the mentioned books actually work. This is not always the case with some source material I have come across. The projects are real, have real applications and are much better than "flashing Christmas tree lights" type apps. The books are sold through Farnell www.farnell.com No..... I am not on sales commission for this. Lance Allen Technical Officer Psych Dept University of Auckland