i've been using them for years. snuberless triacs cost a little more , but there worth it. u can use these with pics. there's an application note that states how many pins to use with various kinds of snuberless triacs. starts from one (obviously) up to 4 pins for bta/btb triacs. this application works on the principle of Ig being 2Igt( for eg. triac with 10ma Ig,use 20ma) Jim Ruxton wrote: > Hi Eric > >I've been following the recent discussion about TRIACs, SCRs, Zero > crossing > >detection, etc. Most of it went over my head but I did pick up a > little. > SNIP > I just noticed today in an SGS Thompson publication that they are making > triacs with built in transient suppresion that can be driven directly > from a microcontroller. They are even making small ones in arrays of 4 > in a package. May be worth checking out. Good luck with the house. > Jim