Yup, Red pens work better, and for some reason don't etch off in ferric chloride. Skips can also be from a dry pen or a pen not at the right height versus the paper. The cardboard trick works, try it. -----Original Message----- From: VINCENT COPPOLA To: lilel@toastmaster.com Date: Monday, May 17, 1999 8:32 AM Subject: hp7475 PC board plotting >I have tried to plot to a PC board directly using the Staedler 313 Pen, >but it was a BLACK one. Is there something special about the RED? I do >get dropouts with the BLACK. Not sure what the cause is. > >Also have not tried the cardboard under the paper trick yet. > >thanks for reading, >Vince N1VC