Using Peters solution though C1 would be a high voltage but small ie about .1 uF cap for a couple of mA and C2 would be a low voltage cap. In your circuit Reg wouldn't you require a high voltage high capacitance capacitor for C2 which would be relatively quite expensive. Jim >>>> how about this solution >>> http://www.vertonet.com/members/pvh/scr.pdf snip > Peter's circuit is slightly different from the circuit I used. In >my application C1 was omitted. R2 was between C2 and D5, i.e., >C2 would charge up to peak line voltage and R2 limited current >through D5. Reflects the reality that if you only need a few mA in >a very price-driven application, and you don't have a user interface >to isolate, power resistors are cheaper than transformers. > My reply to the original query outlined the disadvantages. It's > certainly not a universal solution. > Reg Neale