Brain, I use both CircuitMaker 6.0 and Traxmaker 3.0......................no problem with this. Create your own parts and output to Traxmaker. Even with the older versions this worked fine. CircuitMaker is far better that Electronics Workbench in every way. Unfortunately, Electronic Workbench got into the schools (like Apple) and everyone got tricked.(and still are getting tricked) David -----Original Message----- From: Brian Kraut To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Date: Saturday, May 15, 1999 5:46 PM Subject: Re: Schematic Entry Program >I have a licensed copy of Electronics Workbench with the original disks, >manuals, etc. that I would sell cheap. It is a great program for doing >digital, analog, or mixed signal spice simulation. Only problem with it is >they made one very major bonehead move when they wrote the software. I got it >mainly becase I needed a schematic entry program that would output a netlist >that was compatible with my Traxmaker autorouter. Being mainly a Spice >simulation program there are no PICs in the parts library since they can't be >simulated. Since there are also no other 18 or 28 pin DIP parts either I can't >do a schematic of a PIC circuit. Now I have $300 software that is totally >useless to me. > >You can define custom parts on the software, but they won't output in the >netlist. Unfortunately, I was about 5 days past the 30 day return period >before I had a cance to use it and they refused to take it back. Therefore I >bad mouth their software any chance I get. Now how many new sales have they >lost? > >While on the subject, does anyone use Circuitmaker? Does it have the same >problem? I wouldn't think so since they make Traxmaker also and have more of >an interest in a program that is usefull for schematics as well as simulation. > >Actually my favorite is my old Dos version of OrCad. I can draw a schematic >with my keyboard 5 times as fast as as opening menus and dragging parts around >with the mouse in any Windows schematic program I have used. If there was only >a way to make the netlists work with Traxmaker. > >Vincent Deno wrote: > >> Does anyone know of a free (either Freeware, Shareware, etc...) analog >> schematic entry program? I don't need simulation capabilities or anything >> fancy-just something to enter a schematic into. The evaluation versions of >> most programs are too limited for my needs (can't place enough parts). >> >> Thanks, >> >> Vincent Deno >