Here is a simple project to look at. It's a little more complicated than a LED flasher but not too hard. If you want any more help understanding what is going on, email me privately and I'll try to help. http://www.picnpoke.com/projects/pcb.html -- Best regards Tony PicNPoke - Multimedia 16F84 Beginners PIC Tools. http://www.picnpoke.com Email picnpoke@cdi.com.au