All you have to do from your PC software is to let for example the DSR high. Then you can use a simple resistor or a 7805 to power your PIC and the MAX232. You should also calculate the maximun current you can spill from your RS232 port. Take a look on the Microchip Application notes for interfacing a 16C54 via RS232 (you should make some changes to make it work on a 16c84). Good luck, Raffaele -----Original Message----- From: Juan Leni [mailto:jleni@IMPSAT1.COM.AR] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 10:49 PM To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: RS232 & power I'm looking for some information related to powering an 16c84 from the rs232 port and at the same time having at least a half duplex communication. I appreciate any information or idea. Thanks in advance