Hi, theoretically yes, as it supports ICSP as 16C/F84 do. Practically, it depends on the hard-/firmware bcus 12C509A has 12-bit kernel contrary to 16C/F84 which have 14. I hope this helps. Imre On Mon, 10 May 1999, Larry Fostano wrote: > I have a 12c509a chip and would like to ask the dumb question if the Pic > 16c/f84 programmer could read the code on this chip.I was led to believe it > would but somehow don't believe it. > >