Larry Fostano wrote: > I have a 12c509a chip and would like to ask the dumb question if the > Pic 16c/f84 programmer could read the code on this chip.I was led to > believe it would but somehow don't believe it. It can. There may need to be some minor changes to wiring to ensure that the pins match up properly ... I've done that myself on one programmer. Check the schematic for connections to the 8 pin pinout. It also helps to have suitable software. -- James Cameron (quozl@us.netrek.org) Linux, Firewalls, OpenVMS, Software Engineering, CGI, HTTP, X, C, FORTH, COBOL, BASIC, DCL, csh, bash, ksh, sh, Electronics, Microcontrollers, Disability Engineering, Netrek, Bicycles, Pedant, Farming, Home Control, Remote Area Power, Greek Scholar, Tenor Vocalist, Church Sound, Husband. "Specialisation is for insects." -- Robert Heinlein.