Harold, thanks. As far as a quadrature encoder, I wanted to know the absolute position. For example, what if there was a power failure when the oven was set to 300F. How would I know where the dial was set? I could use battery backup but I want to keep this simple and fairly `bullet proof'. I like Lawrence's approach using a Pot. I also like his PID method which should be easy to implement with some tuning. The proof is in the pudding and it sounds like his results are pretty tasty ;-) - Tom At 05:25 PM 5/6/99 EDT, Harold Hallikainen wrote: > I kinda like the use of quadrature encoders with a display. The >use of the rotary control has a nice feel to it while the display gives >precision in setting. A quadrature encoder should be less expensive than >one with a binary output and takes less pins on the PIC. Also, you can >do some dynamic scaling on it so that when you turn it quickly it makes >big changes in the setting, while turning it slowly makes small changes. > Also, probably cheaper than an encoder is just a pot! Run it >into an analog input on the PIC and do the A/D. Only uses one pin! > I think on/off control is fine for this application. You may >want to experiment with how much hysteresis to put in the loop. If you >do go for something fancier, a simple proportional control driving phase >control of the solid state relays seems pretty straightforward. Just >don't try listening to the radio while baking! Of course, you CAN move >all the way to PID control. I'm not sure what this will get you. You >state the heat losses through the insulation are low, so the 'droop" due >to the heating load should be minimal. Even with proprtional control, >you have to "tune" the loop (or at least keep the loop gain down) to keep >the oven from oscillating. > >Harold > >Harold Hallikainen >harold@hallikainen.com >Hallikainen & Friends, Inc. >See the FCC Rules at http://hallikainen.com/FccRules and comments filed >in LPFM proceeding at http://hallikainen.com/lpfm