In a message dated 5/4/99 8:09:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time, support@MONTANADESIGN.COM writes: << I remember VERY recently that there was an app note or tech brief on how to make pin GP3 on a PIC12C part to act as an output. Does anybody know where I saw that? Pleeeease? The idea is basically to use turn the pull-up feature on and off, using that to switch a transistor on and off. Thanks! Andy ================================================================== >> Hi Andy, It was in the microchip App notes. I have seen it too. I think I could find it again if you can't. I think it was in the design contest section. The problem I remember with this approach was the response time. It would work if your intent is turn on and off a LED, light or sprinkler valve, but it is useless for doing PWM or somthing that requires timeing less than a second. It used an external transistor to detect the presents of the weak pullup on that pin. You can effect an output by turning on and off the pullup for that pin. Regards Dave Duley