Hi All, Sorry for bringing this question up, it must have been discussed earlier about a zillion times. But here it is. I'm looking for a PIC production programmer. Currently I'm thinking about the ProMate 2 from Microchip. But aren't there better options for about the same price (approx. $800) on the market? I mostly program PIC16C7xx stuff, but I would also like to program EEPROMs and the manufacturer of the programmer must also stay up to date with the latest PIC devices and supply the required software updates. Furthermore I want the programmer to be suitable to do in circuit programming with some kind of an adapter. BTW, what is the cheapest way to do gang programming with PICs? Thanks for your time. Bye, Daniel...