Stuart Meier wrote: > Yes, flyback diodes on the relays. Using Tants due to space on SMD board. > > The Tants fried not on the 5v coil side, but the 12v contacts side of the > relay. The load at the time was another PIC driving leds, not relays. No > high inductances around there. > > Thanks for everyone's comments - I intend to replace 16v caps with ines > rated at 25v or better, > > Stuart Meier Are you using the relay to control to power of a circuit? Is the design of the circuit such that energizing the relay can cause a high current pulse of current to flow into the capacitor. If so this is a known failure mode of tantalum capacitors. They have a finite current surge capacity. I have had this problem in a design that was hot plugged. Even using capacitors with a voltage rating of many times the input voltage does not always solve the problem. Some manufacturers are now making tantalum capacitors with higher surge ratings. AVX's TPS series is an example of a high surge capacity tantalum. Other options are to use Sanyo's Oscon series or high value ceramic capacitors. which don't have this particular flaw. If the operating current of the circuit is low enough a simple solution would be to place a resistor in series with the contacts. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | Dr. Kevin Dale Kirmse, PhD EE | Portable System Design, High Speed Serial Links | FPGA Design, Video Hardware, Graphics Hardware | | King of Prussia, PA 19406 | kirmse@netaxs.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------