I've just updated to MPLAB 4.0. As with the previous version of MPLAB, downloads into the PROMATE programmer crash shortly after starting. However, downloading with the DOS promate program (which I don't think is supported any more) works fine. Anyone have a solution to this? I tried everything in the help file (setting FIFO to 0, etc.). Thanks! Harold ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]