Hi Des, There are three PIC types(low, midrange, and high-end), and only the high-end 17 series can use external memory. I've never used the 17 series though. Not generally considered cost-effective. On all other PICs, all the program memory is within. That's why you buy eraseable parts for development. That'd be EPROM windowed types, or flash(16F84 and a couple more becoming available). You'll need a programmer. There are many available, I've made comments about some at: http://www.bobblick.com/bob/projects/picprog/ Cheers, Bob