Hi Stuart, Sorry I missed earlier posts but the converter you are looking for should be available from MQP Electronics. They produce converters to fit a majority of chips so they can be easily programmed in standard programmers. They are a UK company so they should be easy for you to source. See the link below. http://www.mqp.com/ Peter G > -----Original Message----- > From: Stuart Meier [SMTP:smeier@PAVILION.CO.UK] > Sent: Friday, April 09, 1999 4:46 AM > To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > Subject: Programming SMT pics > > Thanks to those who contributed suggestions on low-cost ways to program a > few SMT PICS. After some trials, I have successfully blown some smt > 12c508s. > > I couldn't source a suggested test-clip to the required wide soic spacing. > > I made up a pcb with the appropriate pattern, connected to a dil header to > fit my programmer. The Pic was held in place by spring-loaded tweezers (a > sprung clothes peg also worked..). Extremely fiddly, and I had to > carefully > ensure the gullwings held the body of the pic off the board (ie bend them > slightly) before a pin-by-pin continuity check was successful. Then worked > fine. > > However, I now need to program yet more, so I will keep searching for a > better solution... > > Stuart Meier