Bojan has just put up new versions of both programs. Adds PIC16C87x support, added scrolling features. PICALL v 1.13; P16PRO v3.59. Kit 96 has now sold over 700 pieces since 11/98 with virtually no customer complaints. At around $US45 airmail delivered it is the best value for money PIC programmer on the market today. See documentation and details at http://kitrsus.com http://dontronics.com regards, Peter ------------------------------------------------- Peter J. Crowcroft DIY ELECTRONICS (HK) Ltd PO Box 88458, Sham Shui Po, Hong Kong Voice: 852-2720 0255 Fax: 852-2725 0610 Web: http://kitsrus.com -------------------------------------------------