Graham Daniel wrote: > Jim, why be stuck on thousands? > you can equally well apply the same logic using millions as your base > unit instead of thousands, your text: "first order of thousand *above* > thousand," sems a little contrived in comparison. Contrived in a way that only a politician or a salesman could, or would. And are not both true American artforms? (Rmemeber: "I never had an improper relationship with Miss Lewinski") I have *never* been able to see the "bi" in 10^9 at all! But then, if anything, I'm more mathematician than salesman, to my wife's eternal regret. -- Cheers, Paul B.