Hi guys, I'm on my second reading of the responses about impedance. Thanks for the lesson ! So far, I've experimented with the PIC17C44 and PIC16C84 and I just received two PIC16C77s. For the first two PICs I built a variation of the PIC on a Board described in PIC'n up the Pace. On the first two I used a crystal with loading caps with no problems. On the new board for the 77 I got both a crystal and a ceramic resonator. So the question of the moment ... Which is better ? Eric