I forgot this point: In an operational amplifier, you need to feed back a negative signal to reduce the gain, so you control it to works inside the analog voltage range you want. The way to do that is just return part of the output signal to the negative input, normally done with a resistor divider network. Using an operational amplifier you can build a true logic gate just fixing the negative input to half point of the Vcc, so whenever the positive input is higher, even micro volts, will trigger the output to a high positive level, below that the same to a strong negative output. As the gain of an average op-amp is in the thousands units, it works that way. The CMOS logic gates (and others) works like that, the "internal negative input" is buried at half Vcc or so, then the positive input triggers around that voltage. To make it works as an analog device, you need to feed back the negative output to reduce the gain to a level where the output follows the input in such manner you do with an operational amplifier. As you don't have access to the "internal negative input" pin (it doesn't exist), the way is feedback the negative output to the positive input, but it will oscillate, so this is why they use 1 Mega Ohm resistor, so the input impedance can kill the oscillation, not the feedback. Yes, try to reduce the input impedance, using a pot below 10k Ohms to find the trigger point. Use a large coupling capacitor, since small ones will helps the "oscillator"... -------------------------------------------------------- Wagner Lipnharski - UST Research Inc. - Orlando, Florida Forum and microcontroller web site: http://www.ustr.net Microcontrollers Survey: http://www.ustr.net/tellme.htm