somebody wrote: > MIT owns the hardware/software used to run this list - They can shut > down the PICList in a minute, if they don't like what we do with it. ... jory wrote: > i don't want to police such things, but please keep in mind the > nature of your communication, and the nature of a public list and > decide what is appropriate. ... That's a nice and wise position Jory. In the United States, K-Mart sells .22 caliber cartridges at the shelves, as well any gas station sells gasoline at will. Both can be used to protect and serve or to destroy and cause pain. Offffff ccccoourrrse, there is a morality thing involved, but what is wrong is the =bad use= of the thing itself. The fact of hiding the information doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Well, still the moral thing to decide to avoid to show it, but, the free speech and show is something very nice. If not, any newspaper and lots of search sites would be closed, lots of dictionaries pages would be ripped off. Altavista, Yahoo, Lycos and other has thousand of hyperlinks for cracks, serial numbers, tricks, adult sites and much more crazy things. This is the freedom thing. Now, the =use= of that information can be discussed, not the availability of the thing. Months ago I needed a .dll file Microsoft had only inside a huge package, I don't know how I found only the .dll in some .uk site. Thanks to those guys. Again, offfff ccccoouuurrsee we will not allow (in name of the free of speech and show) post adult sites advertisements in our churches, schools and other "high morale level" places. The society decides what is the "morale level" for every place. I believe that the announce of "crack sites" in the list can benefit some students or not fortunate ($$$) people, that otherwise would have difficulties to find the same thing at the search engines. I am not encouraging piracy at all. I believe that in such way it was related to the subject of this list. It is done. The bandwidth used shows how controversial is this subject. Let's just be aware for the future "high tension" situations and not waste so much time over it. Lets close the subject. Wagner Lipnharski. http://www.ustr.net