Sean, There is a free programmer at http://www.codepuppies.com/~ben/sens/pic/sx along with a fairly crappy assembler (there are other, better, also free assemblers available out there!). Looks like Parallax are coming out with a much cheaper version of their SX-Key programmer, which obviously has the benefit of proper support. Cheers, Ben -- /***************************************************************\ * Ben Stragnell * ben@codepuppies.com * * 3D Programmer * ben@left.com * * Left Field Productions * http://www.codepuppies.com/~ben * \****************************************************************/