In message <4.1.19990216100449.03b16750@192.168.0.1>, dave vanhorn writes >I'll concede that there are times when floating the whole bench is >waranted, and as long as EVERYTHING is floated, then you're ok.. but you >STILL need to float the DUT relative to the bench. The time I had to >float the scope, was for a very touchy measurement on the hot side of a >switcher, where there was enough current circulating in the bench ground to >fuzz the waveform.. I have a cheater plug for that. Still, it's safe, since >the DUT is on isolation. I'll explain my situation a little further, all the benches in our workshop are wired the same way. There are a number of different sockets (to account for old style plugs - hardly ever seen now), these are for the DUT and connected via an isolation transformer and a double pole isolation switch. There is one extra 13A socket mounted seperately, and not isolated or switched, and this is used for the oscilloscope or a monitor TV if repairing a VCR or satellite receiver. Aerial sockets for the benches are isolated ones to avoid any earth connections through those, thus providing an earth free environment. >The point is, that as long as the DUT is on an isolation transformer, you >don't have to remember any special systems, or make any lethal >assumptions.. You, and visitors who don't know any special rules are also >safe. Suppose I needed a power cable one evening, borrowed your scope power >cable, and accidentally replaced it with a different one with an intact >ground.. BZZZT.. Barbecue Mark. BTW, my scope doesn't have a plug-in mains lead :-), in fact out of the seven scopes I have access to (both at work and home), only one of them has a plug-in lead - that's a Philips one. -- Nigel. /--------------------------------------------------------------\ | Nigel Goodwin | Internet : nigelg@lpilsley.demon.co.uk | | Lower Pilsley | Web Page : http://www.lpilsley.demon.co.uk | | Chesterfield | Official site for Shin Ki Ju Jitsu | | England | | \--------------------------------------------------------------/