On Sun, 7 Feb 1999, Morgan Olsson wrote: > Maybe try Li-Vn cells. 3V nom, 3,4V constant voltage charge; you always > know clearly when they are full. > > Used them ten years ago for memory retention, and found them very nice: > 50yr(!) self discharge time, high energy per volume, low toxicity at > destruction. I think they had low power rating that time when they were > new type, but that ougt to have improved by now. Manufacturer was > Panasonic, Type no VL something. I think i recently saw some new types; VM > series or something. OK, I was aware of the Vanadium Lithium Pentoxide rechargeables, but all I've been able to find is 3v button cells, which are rated for a max drain rate of about 20uA. That's *alot* of cells to come up to a 30mA anticipated drain....does somebody make these things in sizes more appropriate for real CPU drive currents, not just memory backup levels that could be nearly as well served with a super cap? -Will