I am probably one of the older members of the PIC list. Currently I am 52 years old. My first computer was a DEC PDP 8L. My first homebrew computer was an 8008 thing based on the MIL-MOD8 that I whipped together in the early mid 70's. I wrote the EPROM based operating system myself, which consisted of an assembler and disassembler, basic I/O functions (including a homebrew tape loader at 4800 baud... and this was BEFORE the Kansas City Standard). Keyboard was homebrew, as was the video output device (though I did get some good ideas from Don Lancaster's TVT-II). As time progressed I homebrewed 8080 Z80 8088 8086 and 80286 computers as well as 6502 6800 6809 1802 and other computers as well. I was using a homebrew disk operating system when Gary Kildall came up with the CP/M Disk Operating System. I saw the writing on the wall and quickly switched to what would turn out to be the then industry standard. I wrote a lot of software for the SOL computer, especially BIOS routines for all the variant systems that were out there. It was a fun and magical time. I love my 450 Mhz Pentium II with 128 Megs of RAM and 10 Gigs of Hard Disk running Windows 98, but I never had more absolute FUN and ENJOYMENT as I did in those early days. Using PICs helps me to convey to my students some of the joy and excitement that are to be found in "rolling your own". Fr. Tom McGahee Electronics Department Head Don Bosco Technical High School Paterson, NJ USA