Ry, I have a DataErase II and I normally erase all PICs in 10 min. I never tried shorter times. Contact Walling if you are having problems. They provide good support. Btw, mine is also 3 years old. - Tom At 04:37 PM 1/23/99 PST, Ry Lato wrote: >I have a DataErase II EEPROM Eraser that I bought from Digikey about 3 >years ago. It has a timer and usually takes almost 1/2hour to erase >a PIC16C74 or PIC16C77. I thinks its time to step up to a more powerfull >eraser. I would like to spend around $100. Is it possible to get a more >effective eraser at that price? If so, please name brands and sources. >Recommendations from experience would be appreciated.