Hi Piclisters. I have MPLAB working with the ITU, DONTRONICS, P16PRO, MANNING, DIY and the million other "TAIT STYLE" programmers. Successful testing done in the wee hours of 2nd Jan 1999. All that is required to run these programmers with MPLAB is a 16C558 with 4LAB firmware, a 4MHz resonator, one resistor and a couple of D-connectors on a scrap piece of PCB. An extra wire needs to be connected on the programmer board. All 12C , 14C and 16C ISP parts can be programmed. The 4LAB firmware is also compatible with my own DOS and Windows drivers, It's bilingual. This gives a range of features including serial numbers, automatic calibration support for the 14000 and 12Cxxx, 16C505 parts and other stuff not in MPLAB. I have also been told to believe that soon there will be linux drivers for the MPLAB compatible half of 4LAB. I hope to offer a low cost upgrade kit for all the above programmers, as I will for the picstart 16C and my OEM programmers the warp-3, PP1 and warp-17as soon as suitable PICs and PCBs (where applicable) arrive. Some of these programmers also program the 16C5x and 17Cxx parts with MPLAB. I have a mailing list that people can join from my web page. This list is about to become operational so if you are interested in any aspect of my work, please join this list now. Thanks, Jim -------------------------------------------------------- Jim Robertson Email: newfound@pipeline.com.au http://www.pipeline.com.au/users/newfound --------------------------------------------------------