Eric, IMHO, if you need non volatile memory, you should consider Flash or EEPROM technology. There are some very dense serial connected (pick SPI or I2C) ones around from Atmel, Dallas, Xicor, MicroChip, etc. 32K x 8 in an 8 pin DIP or SOIC is great. And they are nonvolatile with no batteries. --------------------------------------------------- Barry King Engineering Manager NRG Systems "Measuring the Wind's Energy" barry@nrgsystems.com "The witty saying has been deleted due to limited EPROM space"