Glen wrote: > do i get a uv eraseable PIC12c50x (>$31.00 each -1offs-farnell) to do > all initial tests on , then erase after each test burn , till i get > bugs out or I've tried simulation, and I've tried using 16F84 as much as possible, but it reduces stress a lot to have a JW part to fiddle with. Check the http://www.iversoft.com/piclist/ archives for a porting checklist I wrote last year. Helps one to write code that works on 16F84 and 12C509 at the same time. I tried searching for it then, but the search engine couldn't find me, and it could not find 12C509 either! I suspect a fault with the engine. -- James Cameron (cameron@stl.dec.com) OpenVMS, Linux, Firewalls, Software Engineering, CGI, HTTP, X, C, FORTH, COBOL, BASIC, DCL, csh, bash, ksh, sh, Electronics, Microcontrollers, Disability Engineering, Netrek, Bicycles, Pedant, Farming, Home Control, Remote Area Power, Greek Scholar, Tenor Vocalist, Church Sound, Husband. "Specialisation is for insects." -- Robert Heinlein.