Eagle is a (the?) product of CadSoft Computer GmbH, a German company. Eagle is an acronym, realizable in both German and English: EAGLE - Easily Applicable Graphical Layout Editor Einfach Anzuwendender Grafischer Layout Editor [I know ;-) that German often seems merely to be mis-spelled English, but are "Layout" and "Editor" really the same in German and English?]. You probably didn't find "Eagle Lite" in part because it is actually "Eagle Light". Cadsoft is at http://www.cadsoft.de or http://www.cadsoftusa.com. Eagle is CAD program for PCB & Circuit design. It has schematic capture, layout and autorouter modules, and can produce Gerber output for delivery to board production houses. It lacks a SPICE type simulation capability. It is available in three grades, Light (free), Standard and Professional. The primary limitation to the Light version is that it will only design two-sided boards of relatively small size (up to 10cm x 8cm), although it is sufficient for many PIC projects. The standard version can do four-layer boards up to 16cm x 10cm. The Pro version can do 16-layer boards up to 160cm x 160cm. All three modules of the Pro version together cost about US$1200. Standard costs about $600, and Light is free or $50 with manual, CD-ROM distribution and support. I have (through my employer) a copy of the standard version, and am very happy with it. There was a thread several weeks ago about PCB software, and my conclusion was that Eagle was one of the most cost-effective choices available. There are limitations in the software compared to some of the packages that cost tens of thousands of dollars (extensive parts libraries and integrated SPICE support, for example) but these limitations are far more palatable than the general brokenness that appears to be exhibited by several other low-cost PCB programs. CadSoft is selling a solid package at a comparatively low cost, and offers a free version that is very complete and effective for hobbiest and beginner projects. They provide very good support; they run an on-line forum on their website and promptly answer even questions from people who are using the free version. Most people, I believe, would find the theft of their software offensive. --Bob On Sun, Jan 17, 1999 at 11:15:12AM -0700, Keith Causey wrote: > Pardon my ignorance but I just did a search on Eagle Lite and all I found > was a poetry publishing house. You guys are not talking about poetry though. > Are you? > Keith Causey > -----Original Message----- > From: Thomas McGahee > To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > Date: Sunday, January 17, 1999 10:22 AM > Subject: Re: Eagle CRACK!!!!! > > > >The folks that produce Eagle Lite have been very generous > >in making the Eagle Lite package available free to > >hobbyists. It is a slap in their face for us PICsters > >to be a part of any crack rip-off of their product. > >I am pleased to see from the recent posts on this > >subject that the members of this PIC list are by and large > >honest hard-working folks who realize that other > >honest and hard-working folks have a right to make > >a reasonable profit on their goods and services. > > > >Fr. Tom McGahee > > -- ============================================================ Bob Drzyzgula It's not a problem bob@drzyzgula.org until something bad happens ============================================================