Hi Folks, For anyone interested in the state of play of the coming MPLAB programmer upgrades here's a quick summary. 1) I have the picstart 16C working with MPLAB and programming every ISP part supported by MPLAB including the 16F84 and the 12C parts. The replacement firmware chip is a 16C558 otp part. A wiring list is in the adapter.htm file on my web page. 2) I have the WARP-3 and PP1 working with MPLAB and programming every PIC 12C, 14C and 16C part including the 16C5x parts. 3) The OTP Pics for the upgrade chips are ordered but not in stock. As soon as I have them then I will offer an MPLAB upgrade for the 16C immediately. I need PCB adapters for the warp-3 and pp1 and these are being made now. 4) Anyone local who can help out with a small number of 16C558 and 16C62 otp pics is more than welcome to contact me. Thanks Jim -------------------------------------------------------- Jim Robertson Email: newfound@pipeline.com.au http://www.pipeline.com.au/users/newfound --------------------------------------------------------