Mark Willis wrote: > Easy enough to hack a 1/2 height drive bay cover to put 3 binding > posts out there for Ground +5V and +12V, so your entire PIC project > can be outside your closed PC, of course the original post's for once > the project's debugged not for earlier . Now that's hacking! One of my little tricks relating to Amateur Packet Radio is to power the radio (generally, a handheld with current draw < 1.5 Amp) from the computer using a 6.5mm (¹") "phone" jack mounted on the back panel, generally in a vacant "DE" connector knock-out. I don't really advise this, as "hot-plugging" can easily crash the computer, and I would be worried about Mark's suggestion for similar reasons. In fact, you can "kill" the power supply, *usually* only temporarily, by the impulse from connecting a large discharged supply capacitor. In fact, I used a "Y" adaptor for this purpose, also a 6-hole ferrite choke and a bypass capacitor at the socket to avoid exchange of undesirable dataforms. Many SMPSUs however have an unused second 3¸" FD connector. My present "cheap" source of these adaptors is discarded dead CPU fans! OK, OK! So I'm a scavenger! -- Cheers, Paul B.