I saw an idea for a random number generator which used a 4-bit counter who's outputs were hooked into a micro controller's port. to get the random number, you just read the port. I was wondering, would the number be more random if the counter is incremented at a higher frequency than the micro controller, or at a lower frequency? also, Does anyone know of a better method of generating random numbers, preferably w/o extra hardware? thanks. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ A member of the PI-100 Club: 3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841971693993751 058209749445923078164062862089986280348253421170679