> G'day Victor,
> If you can convince me that what you are doing is legal in your country,
> then I might answer.  I suspect that it is not.  I won't help people
> break the laws that the other people in their country set up.  There's
> no difference between that and war, as far as I can see.
>
> I'm glad that you honestly described what you are attempting though.  It
> sounds like an interesting technical challenge.  ;-)
> James Cameron                                      (cameron@stl.dec.com)


-->  First, I can't convince no one because you're  right.

 I have 2 reasons in what I'm doing:
1. I have a friend which is executive director in my town at romtelecom.
 Last year I'd ask him about phonecards (curiosity). When he told me that
the cards are MAGNETIC, I've show him my credit card and I explained him
that those thing couldn't be identical. If I show him an emulated card
made by me, maybe he will believe me.

2. During my school I realise I'm doing nothing concrete. I see too many
people who finish a university and they really don't know how to manage in
a lot of situations. That's because they used to learn word with word (mot
a mot) and not to think.

Maybe you will ask me why I'm not doing something creative, good. When I
will finish with this ( when I will see things going as I wish to go) I
intend to use PIC in other project ( example: using real phonecards
instead of key for opening doors ) . And I'll never use the emulated
phonecard instead of a real one ( only to verify, i don't want to spend a
part of my life in prison ).
        Anyway, thank you for your response, if you think you can give me
type of eeprom it will be very usefull for me. I repeat, with PIC I've
almost done it ( it's a question of time, I hope)
  I will apreciate if you write your thoughts again.

 Il 08-Gen-99, Victor JOCO scrisse:


>  Hello

> I'm new here.
> I have one question.
> I had build this winter a 'phonecard' using pic 16c84. (I emulated a
> phonecard using this pic). It doesn't work now but I'm very close. Then I
> found on this address: http://westphila.net/mike/texts/Phrack/P48-11.html
> almost the same thing.
> The question is this:
> --Had you know any eeprom which use the same protocol as a phonecard?
> (This thing can be usefull because pic 16c84 don't start too fast so I had
> to attach a power suply- 3X1.5 battery)
>  It is about -Schlumberger- phonecards used in almost all countries in
> Europe. I'll give more details if someone response me.
> Sorrry for my english, I'm a begginer. I think this piclist is a great
> thing. Congratulations for the owners and the subscribers of this list.

I Victor. I think you've choice the wrong place to ask for infos.. most
of the peole on the piclist will not give you such informations. I cannot
help you, since here in italy we have magnetic phonecards, but i'm
interested in your work. Let me know... good luck.

 Hi,
I'm glad that someone is interested in my work.
 Now I have a lot of exams, my work about phcards are going very slow.
Thank you,

Ciao.