Gerhard Fiedler wrote: > maybe you can hinder the ants crawling up? something like a "siphon" > (german, didn't find it in the dictionary -- goes down and up again, so > that there's always water in the bend) maybe, in some central places in > the main pipes. Australian conditions. Temperatures up near 40 degrees centigrade are fairly normal, agricultural distribution pipes are matt black PVC, the pipes may boil themselves dry on a hot day and a bend containing water would probably attract ants anyway. ;-) > difficult to measure volume flow if the active cross section of the > pipe is not known. Good point. I was thinking of a distribution layout like this; Water Supply --> Filter --> Flow Measurement --> Valves | | | v v v Filters | | | First filter is to remove things from the water that would annoy the flow measurement and valves. Last set of filters after the valves would be to prevent ants from crawling back into the valves and flow measurement. The other "problem" is that after the valves for regions of garden or orchard the distribution pipes go to outlets of various sizes, which are adjustable. Gotta figure out how to rig it so that an adjustment of one outlet doesn't affect the flow from another. -- James Cameron (cameron@stl.dec.com) OpenVMS, Linux, Firewalls, Software Engineering, CGI, HTTP, X, C, FORTH, COBOL, BASIC, DCL, csh, bash, ksh, sh, Electronics, Microcontrollers, Disability Engineering, Netrek, Bicycles, Pedant, Farming, Home Control, Remote Area Power, Greek Scholar, Tenor Vocalist, Church Sound, Husband. "Specialisation is for insects." -- Robert Heinlein.