Alessandro Zummo wrote: > they're so cheap that it would be fine to have one connected to a > pic... Cheap? I find that quite absurd! The whole marketing concept of these devices is to sell the main controller for something close to a realistic mark-up and make hideous profits from marketing trivial but desirable attachments for ten times manufacturing costs, in addition to the games software itself. You *must* have a secret source of supply. All such attachments I have seen are in the tens of dollars range. Chips contained can't be worth more than $2 aggregate in bulk. -- Cheers, Paul B.