Thanks for your input. Finally there are two different circuit proposals: SIGNAL +-------+---------o Separate +5V from welder PS FROM | +--+ PIC 220 ohm | Relay | | o----/\/\/\-------+ | ( --- | 4N25 | ( ^ V ---> |/ ( /_\ 1N4001 - ---> | | | | |\ +--+ | V | | | |/ | +-----| BD139 | | |\ | | V | \ | | / | | 1K \ | | / | | | | | | | --- --- --- using a 1K resistor between 4N25 emitter and BD139 base if needed. And this other one: O +V (unregulated) being 12Vac | | ----* | | | C Diode is usually 1N4001 --- C A C relay coil | C | C | | ---* | 1K |/ PIC o-*- /\/\/\-*---| gain>50 | | |\ +++ --- V 22K | | A | +++ | | | | | --- --- --- A couple questions on this second circuit: 1.- Is the second diode a 1N4001? 2.- Would a 2N2222A a good choice for the NPN transistor? The values of the DOCUMENTED relays ("n.a." was "not available", Paul) from FINDER I'll be using are: 1.- For the big one, FINDER ref. # 40.52: Coil: 12Vdc, 220ohm, 55mA. 2.- For the other 3 of them, FINDER ref. # 30.22: Coil: 12Vdc, 360 ohm, 33mA. Once again, Thanks for your time and patience. Jaume. ---------------------- Jaume Aragay Badia aragay@email.com ----------------------