At 20:54 4/01/99 -0500, you wrote: >John, don't waste your time building a programmer, your time is much >better spent designing your applications, IMHO. Go to kitsrus.com, buy >kit #96 for $25 (with shipping from Hong Kong!) and download the free >programming software. The kit is easily assembled in an hour, I had >mine up and running, and my first PIC '84 running in 2 hours! That was >several days ago. Anyway that's just my opinion, but check it out, it >programs most all PICS...you need only add a m/f 25-pin cable and a wall >wart! Good Luck. Um, correct me if I'm wrong but the software is shareware and requires a payment of USD$25 to the author. This is posted on the kits "R" us web site: Price $US25.00 includes all postage & packing & bank charges. You can use the secure credit card webpage. Note software expires after 21 days and you must registered it ($US25) directly with the software writer. So your USD$25 programmer "kit" is really a USD$50 "kit" doesn't program 16C5x parts and certainly has little chance of "working with MPLAB." I suggest a little work with a web brower and a calculator might be required. Jim >John and Elaine Schenk wrote: >> >> I am in need or a PIC programmer that will work with MPLAB and 16F84 mclrs. I am going to try the Parallel Programmer in the Electronics Now Sept 98issue. Has anybody had any success with this one? Also I am looking for a complete schematic for the YAP programmer found in Myke Predko's Programming and Customizing the PIC Microcontroller. A parts list would also be quite helpful. Any input would be greatly appreciated, this is my first attempt at PICs. >> >> Andrew Schenk > -------------------------------------------------------- Jim Robertson Email: newfound@pipeline.com.au http://www.pipeline.com.au/users/newfound --------------------------------------------------------