I built it, use it, and sell it. If it was crap, I would not bother. Sure, I've been burt before with 'low cost' stuff. But this little beauty is a gem. I have lost count of the number of PICStart16B/C's that have gone west - and for that matter, the PICStart Plus. I worked in Distribution supporting these things, and boy did I take some flack. Sometimes you DONT get what you pay for. Rgds... ...Andy At 17:30 30/12/98 +1100, you wrote: >Sometimes I hate the english language. 'Very good value for money' is not >unfortunately able to be summarized by the word 'cheap'. > >Hours went into getting the programmer right. About 5 PIClisters tested it >and tore it to bits. > >The result is that with about 250 Kit 96 sold in 2 months there has been >only 1 single complaint. I got it back: it had been blow-torched on the >back with lifted tracks, globs of solder 5mm in diameter, obvious >dry-joints and no links added. And he wanted a replacement for free! > >Maybe Don & I should double the price. People would stop calling it 'cheap' >but still be satisfied with it :-) > > > > > >regards, Peter > >------------------------------------------------- >Peter J. Crowcroft DIY ELECTRONICS (HK) Ltd >PO Box 88458, Sham Shui Po, Hong Kong >Voice: 852-2720 0255 Fax: 852-2725 0610 > Web: http://kitsrus.com > ICQ #2064 4080 >------------------------------------------------- >