A kit of parts plus the firmware for the PICALL programming software of Bojan Dobaj is now available from dontronics.com or kitsrus.com Read the documentation (pdf) at http://kitsrus.com Don also has the same information on his site. $US85 covers airmail, registered postage to anywhere. Nothing else to pay. Software all included. Nothing to register. Both don and myself have secure sites to easily pay by credit card. The software is able to be expanded as new PICs come out. The firmware does NOT need constant upgrading. There is only one on-board ZIF socket (not 2 or 3 different sizes!). The software automatically shows you where to place the PIC to be programmed within the 40-pin ZIF. A 40-pin, wide-slot ZIF socket is not supplied with the kit because 1. you may have one already, and 2. they are produced in north america while the kits are produced in Hong Kong peter crowcroft peter@kitsrus.com http://kitsrus.com