Hi Kent, KB> I,m just starting and i need to find where to get the basic things going on KB> with the 16f84 like flash an LED ,pause ,flash , # of times , pulse high and KB> low KB> i have been looking on the web and can find any thing KB> i call the book store and the lib and no one has any of the book easy pic or KB> pic,nup the pace KB> i just need some web site ! see http://people.frankfurt.netsurf.de/wky/pic.htm Regards, Wolfgang